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		<title>Cold-calls and Madison Maclean recruitment</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Update: I did email Madison Maclean to complain, with a link to this post on the 19th January, and as of a week later, I still have had no response. Update 2: Today, 19th October 2010, I received an email from the manager of Andrew Holden. He requested that I remove this blog post. Since [...]]]></description>
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<p><strong>Update:</strong> I did email Madison Maclean to complain, with a link to this post on the 19th January, and as of a week later, I still have had no response.</p>
<p><strong>Update 2:</strong> Today, 19th October 2010, I received an email from the manager of Andrew Holden.  He requested that I remove this blog post.  Since these events <strong>did</strong> happen, I won&#8217;t be removing the post.  I am however adding this comment to say <strong>Andrew no longer works at the company</strong> (and hasn&#8217;t for some time), although I have no confirmation if that was the same person who cold-called me, and whether you choose to work with them in the future is entirely up to you.  I was not offered an apology.</p>
<h3>Original post</h3>
<p>I think it&#8217;s a fairly well agreed statement to say that recruitment agents aren&#8217;t particularly nice to deal with.  Especially when they&#8217;re cold-calling you at your place of work with jobs you&#8217;re not interested in.  I will just say that I have worked with 1 nice agent, who got me the interview for my current job at the BBC, but she had the right knowledge at the right time when I asked for it.</p>
<p>So, a little story about yesterday and what not to do if you&#8217;re contacting me.</p>
<p>Around 4.30pm my office phone rang (I don&#8217;t publish this number, and I&#8217;d have trouble reciting it myself &#8211; you can only get it from the outside by calling the reception and being asked to be put through).  My phone never rings at work, except for cold-calls from recruitment agents, so I&#8217;d already anticipated answering, saying &#8220;no thanks&#8221; and hanging up.  A 30 second call at best.</p>
<p>Instead, I answer and the chap on the end of the line does his usual speil of who he is and where he works and if I&#8217;m available to talk at the moment.  I answer &#8220;No, not really. As you can probably tell I&#8217;m at work, and also, you&#8217;re a recruitment agent and I&#8217;m not looking for work at the moment, so I&#8217;ll save you the time and say &#8220;no thank you&#8221;".</p>
<p>&#8220;But you haven&#8217;t heard what I want to offer yet&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Ok, that&#8217;s true, but I still wasn&#8217;t interested, thanked him for the call and as an ending question, I enquired as to where he got my number.</p>
<p>&#8220;From your linkedin profile&#8221;.</p>
<p>Now, I&#8217;d like to direct everyone to my <a href="http://uk.linkedin.com/in/fberriman">linkedin profile</a>.  Click through to contact me and find the section.  What does it say?  You have to be a member to take a look, so to save you the time, this is what it says:</p>
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<p>Please email me. Calling my company and getting to my desk phone via the switchboard is unappreciated (and this keeps happening, so stop it). *NO* cold-calls from agencies.</p>
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<p>To be fair, I added the final line about cold-calls yesterday evening, but the rest was there about not calling my switchboard and to email me.</p>
<p>So, being caught out with a lie, I expected an apology or at least some sort of sign that he had become confused or disorientated, and I point out that I expressly say that I <strong>do not want people to phone me</strong>.  No, instead, he says: &#8220;Well, I might have got it from a colleague that you&#8217;d previously spoken to, but you&#8217;re clearly all over the internet.  <strong>You&#8217;re inviting people to phone you</strong>, and you shouldn&#8217;t expect people not to.  I&#8217;m perfectly within my right&#8230;&#8221;.  I&#8217;m sorry, what?  I *invite* recruitment agents who can&#8217;t be bothered to read my profiles properly to cold-call me about jobs I&#8217;m clearly not interested in?  I correct him and said that wasn&#8217;t the case, and he continued to argue the point, at which time I decided this wasn&#8217;t worth my time of day, thanked him again for his call and hung up on him mid-sentence.  That might have been rude of me, but not half as rude as he was.  I quickly vented on twitter, and some of the responses I received were interesting:</p>
<blockquote><p> Some choice coloquialisms seem warranted. In the King&#8217;s English, you might remind them that a combative cold call accomplishes nothing</p>
<p><em>by <a href="http://twitter.com/erickolb/">erickolb</a></em></p>
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<blockquote><p>wow. does this mean you need to have a &#8216;no recruitment agencies pls&#8217; signature appended to every online post you make?!</p>
<p><em>by <a href="http://twitter.com/gradualist/">gradualist</a></em></p>
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<blockquote><p>there’s something about that argument that strikes me as a bit—for want of a more appropriate adjective—“rapist-y”.</p>
<p><em>by <a href="http://twitter.com/fatbusinessman/">fatbusinessman</a></em></p>
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<blockquote><p>Reading that again, it sounds like a horrible rape defence</p>
<p><em>by <a href="http://twitter.com/jaffathecake/">jaffathecake</a></em></p>
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<p>From what I can tell, part of a recruitment agent&#8217;s job is building up a relationship and repertoire with potential candidates.  Cold-calling people, lying to, and arguing with potential candidates does not seem to be the fastest way to build a lasting bond.</p>
<h3>Identifying the company</h3>
<p>I had to google the company to remember who it was that called me, as I&#8217;d seen red and forgotten exactly who it was.  I&#8217;m so used to just saying &#8220;no thanks&#8221;, hanging up and that being the end of the story.  I knew it was Madison-something, but couldn&#8217;t recall which.  Turns out there&#8217;s a whole ton of Madison-something recruitment agencies in London alone, each apparently specialising in IT.  It strikes me that there&#8217;s too many companies with names Madison-something, too many agencies and too many that specialise in the same thing.  So, I can imagine the area is highly competitive.  </p>
<p>He had hinted that he&#8217;d got my name from a colleague, so I searched my inbox for &#8220;Madison&#8221; and bingo, I had an email from <strong><a href="http://www.madisonmaclean.com/">Madison Maclean</a></strong> in 2008 from an <strong>Andrew Holden</strong>.  I can&#8217;t recall if that&#8217;s the name of the guy that called me, but he&#8217;s certainly the person I responded to with &#8220;I&#8217;m not currently seeking employment at this time, and probably not ever in the financial services area.&#8221; after he emailed me in 2008 with job opportunities in the banking area, so I&#8217;m happy to let him take the blame for not taking me off their books (that I never signed up for in the first place). </p>
<p>As a favour to me, could you avoid Madison Maclean if you&#8217;re job hunting? Thanks.</p>

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