Comments for fberriman http://fberriman.com a blog for frances Thu, 19 Apr 2012 14:38:49 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 Comment on Schema-org, microformats and more science please by Mark http://fberriman.com/2011/12/01/schema-org-microformats-and-more-science-please/#comment-30922 Mark Thu, 19 Apr 2012 14:38:49 +0000 http://fberriman.com/?p=617#comment-30922 I only stumbled across this today. I was not aware that Microformats were still going. I thought they had died through lack of traction. Don't get me wrong, I think the data driven semantic web is the way forward for many things. Including the open government, data exchange, commerce and the Internet of things. But I have an open question, which is possibly rather naive. Why be so concerned about how a Microformat is constructed? If the data is to be read by computer then it needs to be in a sensible format for machines, no matter how complex that maybe. Most large scale web sites are created programatically, so as long as the application code is constructed (once) correctly any number of Microformats can be created without error. I appreciate the lack of elegance in the code, but surely they are solved, or at least hidden, once the web application is written. Mark (out of work right now, with clearly nothing better to do than learn new stuff!) I only stumbled across this today. I was not aware that Microformats were still going. I thought they had died through lack of traction. Don’t get me wrong, I think the data driven semantic web is the way forward for many things. Including the open government, data exchange, commerce and the Internet of things.

But I have an open question, which is possibly rather naive. Why be so concerned about how a Microformat is constructed? If the data is to be read by computer then it needs to be in a sensible format for machines, no matter how complex that maybe. Most large scale web sites are created programatically, so as long as the application code is constructed (once) correctly any number of Microformats can be created without error.

I appreciate the lack of elegance in the code, but surely they are solved, or at least hidden, once the web application is written.

Mark (out of work right now, with clearly nothing better to do than learn new stuff!)

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]]> Comment on Schema-org, microformats and more science please by Matt Wilcox http://fberriman.com/2011/12/01/schema-org-microformats-and-more-science-please/#comment-22136 Matt Wilcox Sun, 04 Dec 2011 11:55:17 +0000 http://fberriman.com/?p=617#comment-22136 That was one massive WTF moment I had (and asked about, never getting an answer) the itemscope is utterly pointless. The scope of the property is /always/ the scope of the tag to which it is applied. Making this extremely verbose and rather confusing. That was one massive WTF moment I had (and asked about, never getting an answer)

the itemscope is utterly pointless. The scope of the property is /always/ the scope of the tag to which it is applied. Making this extremely verbose and rather confusing.

]]> Comment on Schema-org, microformats and more science please by Ciaran McNulty http://fberriman.com/2011/12/01/schema-org-microformats-and-more-science-please/#comment-21993 Ciaran McNulty Fri, 02 Dec 2011 10:36:58 +0000 http://fberriman.com/?p=617#comment-21993 I'm not sure that you can have a single attribute doing double-duty as both a boolean and a value, if you see what I mean. Consider if you got rid of itemscope and just had itemtype instead - what would you do in an XML serialisation? You'd need to do itemtype="itemtype", then the specification would need to use that as a reserved value, which would start to get messy. I’m not sure that you can have a single attribute doing double-duty as both a boolean and a value, if you see what I mean.

Consider if you got rid of itemscope and just had itemtype instead – what would you do in an XML serialisation? You’d need to do itemtype=”itemtype”, then the specification would need to use that as a reserved value, which would start to get messy.

]]> Comment on Schema-org, microformats and more science please by Jake Archibald http://fberriman.com/2011/12/01/schema-org-microformats-and-more-science-please/#comment-21988 Jake Archibald Fri, 02 Dec 2011 10:11:40 +0000 http://fberriman.com/?p=617#comment-21988 Ian: Which parts of the raw data prevent it being published? Excellent to hear that decisions are evidence-based, but without publishing the data it can't be reviewed & debated. I know it's not your intention, but the whole... "Evidence proves I'm right!" "Can I see this evidence?" "No, it's secret" ...thing is the folly of quacks Ian:

Which parts of the raw data prevent it being published?

Excellent to hear that decisions are evidence-based, but without publishing the data it can’t be reviewed & debated.

I know it’s not your intention, but the whole…
“Evidence proves I’m right!”
“Can I see this evidence?”
“No, it’s secret”
…thing is the folly of quacks

]]> Comment on Schema-org, microformats and more science please by Manu Sporny http://fberriman.com/2011/12/01/schema-org-microformats-and-more-science-please/#comment-21934 Manu Sporny Fri, 02 Dec 2011 00:43:02 +0000 http://fberriman.com/?p=617#comment-21934 You may be interested in the Data-Driven Standards Community Group at the W3C: http://www.w3.org/community/data-driven-standards/2011/11/07/launch/ You may be interested in the Data-Driven Standards Community Group at the W3C:

http://www.w3.org/community/data-driven-standards/2011/11/07/launch/

]]> Comment on Schema-org, microformats and more science please by Alex Russell http://fberriman.com/2011/12/01/schema-org-microformats-and-more-science-please/#comment-21932 Alex Russell Thu, 01 Dec 2011 22:47:20 +0000 http://fberriman.com/?p=617#comment-21932 Ian: I agree with Karl about the methodological concerns here. 7 is a pretty small sample. More to the point, AFAICT this is a test of "can n00bs learn a thing this way" vs. "what works best over long-term use" seems to be something not studied by this survey. A study like this could be constructed using new forms of elements the participants already know that are designed to be "clearer" in this way (e.g., an output type="video" vs. the video tag). *Perhaps* we can eventually say that what's good for new users is good for the experienced as well, but this research doesn't seem to explore that, even in the small population. But it's good to know what's good for new users too. Regards Ian:

I agree with Karl about the methodological concerns here. 7 is a pretty small sample. More to the point, AFAICT this is a test of “can n00bs learn a thing this way” vs. “what works best over long-term use” seems to be something not studied by this survey. A study like this could be constructed using new forms of elements the participants already know that are designed to be “clearer” in this way (e.g., an output type=”video” vs. the video tag).

*Perhaps* we can eventually say that what’s good for new users is good for the experienced as well, but this research doesn’t seem to explore that, even in the small population. But it’s good to know what’s good for new users too.

Regards

]]> Comment on Schema-org, microformats and more science please by Karl Böhlmark http://fberriman.com/2011/12/01/schema-org-microformats-and-more-science-please/#comment-21924 Karl Böhlmark Thu, 01 Dec 2011 20:54:07 +0000 http://fberriman.com/?p=617#comment-21924 I was just about to post about the study by Hixie regarding itemscope and itemtype. I was quite saddened to read the results from said study and can't help wondering if this really was statistically significant enough to let it impact the specification like this. Like the poster, I had a wtf moment reading about itemscope, and found the hixie study while looking for what could possibly be the reason for choosing this syntax. I was just about to post about the study by Hixie regarding itemscope and itemtype. I was quite saddened to read the results from said study and can’t help wondering if this really was statistically significant enough to let it impact the specification like this.

Like the poster, I had a wtf moment reading about itemscope, and found the hixie study while looking for what could possibly be the reason for choosing this syntax.

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